Comments on: Come on, baby, light my pyre! http://www.learnedfool.com/come-on-baby-light-my-pyre Fri, 11 Nov 2011 01:30:06 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Fool http://www.learnedfool.com/come-on-baby-light-my-pyre#comment-4550 Fool Mon, 14 Sep 2009 16:45:44 +0000 http://www.learnedfool.com/?p=320#comment-4550 OK, maybe I misunderstood when they reported that Mr. Ghai had an open funeral pyre for a friend. I don't know what the technicalities are for having one. But, you misunderstand me about the laws. There were laws prohibiting open air cremations in 1902 as well as 1930. There were no laws allowing it, but some people were performing it. The open air cremations are now an outdated practice and there are health and safety concerns, which today's world is obsessed with. I would never suggest abolishing all outdated laws; although some may be unnecessary as they would not apply to today's world. Of course, the government takes care to have them all modified so that they would apply. OK, maybe I misunderstood when they reported that Mr. Ghai had an open funeral pyre for a friend. I don’t know what the technicalities are for having one.

But, you misunderstand me about the laws. There were laws prohibiting open air cremations in 1902 as well as 1930. There were no laws allowing it, but some people were performing it. The open air cremations are now an outdated practice and there are health and safety concerns, which today’s world is obsessed with.

I would never suggest abolishing all outdated laws; although some may be unnecessary as they would not apply to today’s world. Of course, the government takes care to have them all modified so that they would apply.

]]> By: Neil http://www.learnedfool.com/come-on-baby-light-my-pyre#comment-4548 Neil Mon, 14 Sep 2009 16:19:33 +0000 http://www.learnedfool.com/?p=320#comment-4548 “Mr. Ghai himself broke the law in 2006 after the court had ruled against allowing him to have an open funeral pyre." Technically he didn't have it. "There’s also the argument that open funeral pyres used to be practiced in this country prior to the 1930 law. What’s the use of pointing out an outdated practice to compare to today’s world?" Yeah, why don't we get rid of all the laws before 1930, being as outdated as they are to modern times. Seriously? “Mr. Ghai himself broke the law in 2006 after the court had ruled against allowing him to have an open funeral pyre.” Technically he didn’t have it.

“There’s also the argument that open funeral pyres used to be practiced in this country prior to the 1930 law. What’s the use of pointing out an outdated practice to compare to today’s world?”

Yeah, why don’t we get rid of all the laws before 1930, being as outdated as they are to modern times. Seriously?

]]> By: Fool http://www.learnedfool.com/come-on-baby-light-my-pyre#comment-4494 Fool Sat, 12 Sep 2009 10:14:22 +0000 http://www.learnedfool.com/?p=320#comment-4494 You sound a bit contradictory yourself. "British law currently says so": if that is the case, why are people not prosecuted when people break the law? Do you know the background of the story? Mr. Ghai broke the law by performing an open air cremation for another person. He had asked the court and they denied him. He went ahead with it, so he broke the law. You don't prosecute the dead. Mr. Ghai was not the dead man. He was the one who held it. So, of course, you prosecute him. You sound a bit contradictory yourself. “British law currently says so”: if that is the case, why are people not prosecuted when people break the law?

Do you know the background of the story? Mr. Ghai broke the law by performing an open air cremation for another person. He had asked the court and they denied him. He went ahead with it, so he broke the law. You don’t prosecute the dead. Mr. Ghai was not the dead man. He was the one who held it. So, of course, you prosecute him.

]]> By: Neil http://www.learnedfool.com/come-on-baby-light-my-pyre#comment-4480 Neil Fri, 11 Sep 2009 21:37:15 +0000 http://www.learnedfool.com/?p=320#comment-4480 I thought ten times before I replied debating whether or not it was even worth it. You seem to be a very closed minded person and the arguments you have against aren't really substantial. The summary is simply because british law currently says so. The fact is, you bring up points that actually argue against your main point more convincingly than your side of the argument. And then you say things that just don't make sense, like the following: "Mr. Ghai himself broke the law in 2006 after the court had ruled against allowing him to have an open funeral pyre. He went ahead and did it. Northumbria police did nothing at the time, but later stated it “may” have been illegal. There is no “may” about it. It was downright illegal.The law says "No open air funeral pyres!” Did he have an open air funeral pyre? Yes. Was he prosecuted? No." How do you prosecute a dead cremated person? Seriously? I would insult you, but I think you are doing a pretty fine job by yourself :) I thought ten times before I replied debating whether or not it was even worth it. You seem to be a very closed minded person and the arguments you have against aren’t really substantial. The summary is simply because british law currently says so. The fact is, you bring up points that actually argue against your main point more convincingly than your side of the argument. And then you say things that just don’t make sense, like the following:

“Mr. Ghai himself broke the law in 2006 after the court had ruled against allowing him to have an open funeral pyre. He went ahead and did it. Northumbria police did nothing at the time, but later stated it “may” have been illegal. There is no “may” about it. It was downright illegal.The law says “No open air funeral pyres!” Did he have an open air funeral pyre? Yes. Was he prosecuted? No.”

How do you prosecute a dead cremated person? Seriously? I would insult you, but I think you are doing a pretty fine job by yourself :)

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